Two separate statements. By the time I realized it wasn't going to happen it was to late to study for the MCAT and reapply again I would have lost two years and would be half way done with my MD here at SGU. Caribbean schools are easier to get into, but it becomes significantly more difficult to get back into the US for residency. This is true. I volunteered, shadowed, heavy research since it was part of my graduate degree. Check out the sidebar for useful resources & intro guides. /r/MCAT is a place for MCAT practice, questions, discussion, advice, social networking, news, study tips and more. The most important thing is to work hard and become a good doctor - in the end, that's all that counts. However, you should be aware that going to a medical school outside of Canada and the US really decreases your chances of matching residency through CaRMS and ERAS. Fact: For all medical schools under the AAMC (which is almost all MD medical schools), All classes taken for a letter grade will be counted in the GPA that medical schools will see. The academic requirements for entry would be higher, but the fees would probably be about the same as Ross or St George. @keyframes ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5{0%{transform:rotate(0deg)}to{transform:rotate(1turn)}}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq{--sizePx:0;font-size:4px;position:relative;text-indent:-9999em;border-radius:50%;border:4px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyTextAlpha20);border-left-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);transform:translateZ(0);animation:ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5 1.1s linear infinite}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq,._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{width:var(--sizePx);height:var(--sizePx)}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{border-radius:50%}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq._2qr28EeyPvBWAsPKl-KuWN{margin:0 auto} 3.26 undergrad (3.67 in last 65 credit hours) 4.0 graduate both degree's are in molecular and microbiology. If you can swing it, a good solution would be to go to a high-reputation offshore medical school that takes fee-paying foreign students. Many Caribbean medical students rotate among students from some of the most well-respected schools in the U.S., and in my experience, their clinical knowledge and skills are easily comparable. Additionally, you should know that Caribbean schools are considered less reputable. These schools also have thousands of alumni in residency or practicing throughout the U.S. and Canada – another testament to the quality of their education. Your friend that didn't get a residency was she the one who went to Poland of the Caribbean? Most offshore schools are dual-campus programs: basic sciences are completed in the Caribbean, while clinical clerkships are completed at teaching hospitals in the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom. ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:bottom}.isInIcons2020 .icon._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{vertical-align:middle}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} Ya it is definitely harder being here on the island. @keyframes _1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT{0%{opacity:0}to{opacity:1}}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc{--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left:0px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;padding:3px 9px;position:absolute;border-radius:4px;margin-top:-6px;background:#000;color:#fff;animation:_1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT .5s step-end;z-index:100;white-space:pre-wrap}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc:after{content:"";position:absolute;top:100%;left:calc(50% - 4px - var(--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left));width:0;height:0;border-top:3px solid #000;border-left:4px solid transparent;border-right:4px solid transparent}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd{margin-top:6px}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after{border-bottom:3px solid #000;border-top:none;bottom:100%;top:auto} I know I'm the minority here since I'm excelling on my exams but still I guess I'm trying to prepare myself for the worse and I don't want to go through all this and specialize in career I don't enjoy because I had to settle. I know that if I just become a GP afterwards that they do not clear a whole lot (relatively speaking.). In many cases, getting a medical education from a school in the Caribbean could make you better prepared for a career as a medical professional. I keep telling myself when I was growing up I never said I wanted to be a DO it was always MD. Either you are good or you aren't. My MCAT mark is competitive. Some may still look at it with judgment, but ultimately, it’s about being able to demonstrate knowledge and competency. Almost 50% of medical students studying in Australia reported difficulty arranging clerkships in Canada, but over 80% of medical students in the Caribbean did the same. Then i see the numbers from ERAS. Caribbean IMGs can be either US citizens, or from other nations, and still be considered Caribbean. So I guess in the end thats a good thing. Many of them — perhaps including you — have dreamed for years of bettering the world through their practice of medicine. Lowest tuition among all accredited medical schools, with tuition from $6,650 per semester Do you want to pursue a career in medicine in the Caribbean 2020? Furthermore, is this amount going to ruin me financially later in life? I just never got called up for interviews but was strung along until April/May by most of the US schools and by that time it would of been two years so I just figured I'd come down here and try to do best as I can. If there is anything I forgot let me know! Good luck, dude. You'll need a Canadian resident co-signer for a med school outside Canada. I'm in my first term, but feel like I made a huge mistake coming here instead of retaking the MCAT and reapplying or going to DO school. Wouldn't you still be considered an IMG and this still have to jump through the same hoops? 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Who Should Consider The Five-Year Doctor of Medicine Degree Program? We know that there is no such thing as one objectively the best medical school for anyone, because the needs of student’s possibilities and expectations are different. Every year, nearly 3,000 students enter Canada’s 17 medical schools. 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The most important things for you are your Steps, away rotations and letters of recommendation (LoR). For example, if you received an F in organic chemistry and then retook it and got an A, medical schools will count both the F and the A into your final GPA. If you're at one of the top Caribbean med schools (St. George, Ross, SUC, Saba?) Caribbean medical school discussion forum. (Luckily my mom still loves me.). Middle East $16,336. Alternatively, you can call us at 800-542-1553 or email us at admissions@mail.sjsm.org . If that doesn't happen I'll just completely destroy the boards and be fine. edit: I should say I'm at the "top" Caribbean medical schools. You should probably explain what has got you so down. If you're not then the odds are going to be even worse for you. I'm 29 y/o, recently graduated from medical school 2 years ago with $450,000 in student loans from both undergrad college and med school. Success will vary widely based on what you want to do but if you work hard, you still have excellent chances. Don't know what else to say. http://medical-mastermind-community.com/uploads/medical-residency-match-statistics.jpg. You always want to take the route that will be easier for you down the road even if it's tougher for you to get there. When put together though, does the Caribbean make medical school a vacation? If you had a good degree from a program like that, it would increase your chances of getting a good residency. So going by previous friends and what was told to me I thought I was fine with getting into a US school. Note that some medical schools in Canada have multiple locations where pre-clinical or clinical studies are conducted. 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